Stop the 7 Million pounds a year handout to Rich Farmers

I suggest  stopping the  the huge handouts  given to rich farmers each year . Farming subsidies are the most blatent transfer of cash to the rich so it's about time we dealt with the Governments unembarrased robbery of the poor.

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by betterhealth on April 04, 2017 at 08:56AM

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  • Posted by Offshore April 04, 2017 at 09:09

    I fundamentally disagree with this coming from an agricultural background. DEFAs Food Strategy is the correct way forward and we should be both growing/producing more and buying local. The IOM produces some of the best food in Europe and we should be proud of that. Most farmers dont make huge amounts of money and its certainly a lifestyle I wouldn't want. Certainly targeting the subsidies carefully would help but total withdrawal would be economic disaster. Getting wholesalers and retailers to pay more for the produce would help but that's perhaps a little too socialist!
  • Posted by ManxVoter April 04, 2017 at 16:41

    It's the rich farmers taking public money that folks object to - especially the ones in high office in Tynwald who are denying funding to Manx students but taking our cash

    If there has to be agricultural subsidy it should be on the consumption side
  • Posted by Shimmie123 April 04, 2017 at 16:58

    Subsidies should be for farmers producing food only. Not for fallow land and not for horse stabling.
  • Posted by Manxcat April 04, 2017 at 18:14

    I couldn't agree more
  • Posted by Gigabyte April 04, 2017 at 20:35

    Yes
  • Posted by Joe1000 April 04, 2017 at 20:57

    Lets see who gets what and for what it is used for. Nothing wrong with farming handouts if used for correct purpose, paying for letting the bluebells grow is not reason enough for 30k
  • Posted by hamertime April 05, 2017 at 10:03

    I think this process needs review. I do not think the concept of subsidies should be scrapped IF they make sense and help the economy.
  • Posted by ninjadispenser April 08, 2017 at 15:36

    How is it that I can buy Manx meat in St Johns Market in Liverpool cheaper than I could get it on the Island? Simple question,anyone out there got an answer? Surely if the whole process from 'farm to fork' is carried out here,it should be cheaper.......?
  • Posted by Sickandtired April 12, 2017 at 02:42

  • Posted by Yukiyama April 12, 2017 at 17:41

    YES
  • Posted by ManxVoter April 16, 2017 at 14:55

    Do 'agricultural' subsidies to rich landowners - especially the ones in Tynwald - make sense and help the economy?

    I'm far from convinced?
  • Posted by charlie April 17, 2017 at 10:15

    Offshore's comments are correct. Most farmers work extremely hard just to balance the books. Without govt support they will be bankrupt. There are a lot of misconceptions about the scheme put out by opponents, no mention for instance of the 'active farmer clause', minimum production levels, European restrictions on subsidies linked to production etc. Some refinement is needed however, setting the minimum acreage at a higher level will knock out the "hobby farmers" for whom it is a lifestyle choice and consolidate the industry so that economies of scale can improve. Turnover needs to be taken into account, along with local spend and supply.

    Its a soft target for cuts and yet those same critics make no mention of the £50m giveaway to other sectors, the subsidy given to the finance sector in the form of taxation policies. Our island is a rural economy it's what attracts many to our shores and protects our unique Manx identity.
  • Posted by Buster May 04, 2017 at 11:20

    I fully support the manx farmers to the extent that they have a reasonable profit to keep trading.
    The present payment is not a subsidy and not related to production.
    A subsidy is where a govt take beef and the carcase has a value of say £500.
    To reduce the cost to the housewife then the subsidy is provided to reduce the cost of the subsided protect to the housewife.
    The current scheme is not sustainable and is totally void of common sense.
    For a govt to pay a farmer that is not related to production is ridiculous.
    Many farmers agree with me and I used to be a farmer so they were very open with me.
    Their is an issue of fairness, in that where you have a land owners and a tenant where the land owners keeps the money
  • Posted by Buster May 04, 2017 at 11:20

    I fully support the manx farmers to the extent that they have a reasonable profit to keep trading.
    The present payment is not a subsidy and not related to production.
    A subsidy is where a govt take beef and the carcase has a value of say £500.
    To reduce the cost to the housewife then the subsidy is provided to reduce the cost of the subsided protect to the housewife.
    The current scheme is not sustainable and is totally void of common sense.
    For a govt to pay a farmer that is not related to production is ridiculous.
    Many farmers agree with me and I used to be a farmer so they were very open with me.
    Their is an issue of fairness, in that where you have a land owners and a tenant where the land owners keeps the money
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