Government employee sickness abuse

Better address repeated sickness amongst government employees by:

Improving the current system of dealing with repeated sickness (i.e. Capability).  It has no backbone, is far too protracted and can be easily manipulated.

Set up an anonymous line specifically for employees wishing to report abuse of sickness benefit; and publicise the launch of it.

Keep a number of basic admin. posts (i.e. for which no specialist knowledge is required) vacant for government employees (on long term sick) who are not fit enough to return to more physically demanding roles.  This will help with the rehabilitation of the genuine cases and will prevent the shirkers from staying at home doing nothing all day. 

Why the contribution is important

Will help to address the abuse of the sickness system which is a massive financial burden on the government.  

by AmSum on April 21, 2017 at 08:52PM

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Based on: 5 votes


  • Posted by sspcutts April 23, 2017 at 09:51

    Stop staff taking sickness when it's not them that are sick. I.e. To look after relative, special leave , holidays and nil pay should be used.
    GP's to stop giving sick notes to cover this
  • Posted by Manxcat April 24, 2017 at 15:11

    Getting paid sick leave is a privilege that should be respected and never abused - but is all too easily open to abuse by anyone who knows the system and chooses to milk it at the expense of their work and their work colleagues.

     Ensure a proper medical examination and detailed assessment for repeat sick notes, not just a doctor accepting "oooh me back still hurts" or the person croaking "I'm still suffering from stress (ignore my party bash on Facebook at the weekend, and last week, and the week before....)". Any GP re-issue sick notes without even seeing their patients should be struck off.

    Occupational Health assessments likewise should be thoroughly searching.

    Introduce spot visits to peoples' homes when off sick.

  • Posted by Bran13 April 24, 2017 at 16:00

    The Government sickness policy as it stands is totally abused by a small majority of staff. The whole policy needs totally reviewing. Some staff seem to think sick leave is an extension to their annual leave and use it accordingly. Having to manage staff and the problems of individuals being off sick constantly the policy needs to cater for the geniune staff and have a backbone to deal with the individuals who are taking the Michael. If you have not had a change to look at the new phased return policy please do, its another colection of ways to abuse the system.
  • Posted by ninjadispenser April 25, 2017 at 16:16

    Being able to self certify was the start of this much abused system and being off for coughs and colds is now an occupation for some. I agree the system should be more robust and long term sickness investigated more rigorously as the employer is still paying a wage and can only use temporary staff at inflated wages to cover,instead of taking on a replacement. It used to be in nursing that you got 6months full pay and 6 months half pay but only after Occupational Health had looked into it and it was accepted by them.I was always amazed when,after the first 6 months,folks miraculously recovered when 'Occy Health' was mentioned as the next step! If this is still in operation,I think the 6 months should be reduced to 3months before further action taken.I will give the wallahs at Occy Health something to occupy their time as well.
  • Posted by Shale April 26, 2017 at 06:15

    You can't over-ride a Doctor's note or speak for a doctor when you aren't medically trained, some above are suggesting spot visits to people's homes. How about spot visits to slackers at work in the Government to check they are doing enough? The main problem is that civil service offer six months full sick pay, and is it 3 months half? No other job has these premium terms and conditions. Off sick more than 3 times in retail, you're sacked, in care, you receive zero sick pay as the Government pays. It does need looking at, the capability is useless. You can either do a job or you can't. You don't need 18 months to decide otherwise. If you can't do it, you should be gotten out of the job a lot easier. Civil servants are far too well protected, whilst other workers have zero rights/protection virtually.
  • Posted by Manannan April 26, 2017 at 19:07

    As Stu Peters said on Manx Radio, if an employee is off for months at a time with job related stress, then they're in the wrong job. Need to put a cap on how long they can be off before return to work or released from work.
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