Check immigrants qualify for benefits & Health services

There are increasing  numbers of non U.K nationals living here in the Island , which is good for the economy if they are workers and are paying NI . There is a qualifying period for contributions to NI before benefits , this should also apply to all dependants . This should be strictly administered , and non U.K nationals going to A&E or a GP should be checked through the goverment social security data that they qualify for free NHS service , and if not be charged . If I attend a Doctor or a hospital abroad then treatment is not free , so we should not provide a service that is not reciprocated .

Why the contribution is important

It would address some residents fears that " foreigners " are being subsidised by the Manx economy .

by oldnick on April 12, 2017 at 06:08PM

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  • Posted by OldSailor April 12, 2017 at 18:31

    Is it good for the taxpayer if people receive more in benefits than they pay in tax? Benefits must not be used to subsidise low wages for the benefit of an employer.
  • Posted by Lupomen April 14, 2017 at 09:18

    Recently whilst at Nobles a senior member of staff identified to me (very surprisingly) that health tourism on the island was a very real issue and should be addressed fully as a matter of urgency !
  • Posted by castlearcher April 14, 2017 at 13:22

    The situation is different depending on whether you are a visitor or newly resident. Currently:

    Visitor - any individual who is normally resident in the UK (regardless of nationality) is entitled to free emergency healthcare (e.g. A+E visit, emergency GP appointment, MEDS). Anyone else should be charged although in practice this probably doesnt occur as MEDS and A+E dont have the ability to accept payment. If someone ends up being admitted then Nobles will invoice - this happens with injured TT riders for example.

    Resident - any individual who has permanently moved to the IOM is entitled to free healthcare from moment they arrive. The individual's previous country of residence or nationality do not matter. There is no qualifying period.

    A simple solution would be to align Manx NHS entitlement to tax residency status; all adult IOM residents are issued a unique tax reference number and are required to submit an annual tax return. Im sure it would be possible to link such data to existing or newly generated NHS numbers.
  • Posted by LeanGreen April 14, 2017 at 19:43

    I've got an NHS number but I've never been asked for it.
  • Posted by charlie April 18, 2017 at 20:14

    Where do you draw the line, a number of ex-residents living abroad return for health and dental care. Despite having 'paid in' in the past should they qualify for care if they aren't currently paying. My view is that if you haven't paid NI For a full 12 months prior to treatment you don't qualify. Emergencies are excluded. I am fed up with wealthy expats returning to visit each year for free eye tests, dental check ups etc etc.
  • Posted by Shale April 26, 2017 at 06:21

    How do you categorise a 'foreigner' as the post above refers to people? When Manx go to UK they receive free healthcare.
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