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by SaraIOMGov on September 13, 2019 at 05:09PM

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  • Posted by janetlees September 22, 2019 at 14:41

    Not sure if this should come under land use, but we urgently need to reforest the Isle of Man. We have so few trees on the island, and the recent pledge to plant 80,000 (with the nice PR-able headline of one tree for every person), is very puny indeed - in reality a tiny fraction of the number of trees that are needed. As well as planting forests, we need to think about the kind of trees that are planted in urban areas. Developers, for example, could be planting fruit and nut trees rather than ornamental trees.
  • Posted by Nooni September 22, 2019 at 18:48

    The Government should be aware of the knock -on effect of any changes, because there will be global financial repercussions for all ideas. The Finance Department needs to be involved for budgetary purposes. Look at this year, for example. There was a news report earlier in the year asking people, who normally fly, not to take holidays using planes as transport. Some people have obviously done this and here we are in September, after the main holiday season, and Thomas Cook is trying to avoid going into receivership. This will, no doubt, have a knock-on effect for the staff at Thomas Cook, airlines, hotels and each regions tourist trade. That will then affect families, landlords (private and commercial) , which will affect people's pension contributions, as that will be the first "luxury" to be cut. Those landlords may not get alternative tenants, which will affect their local communities with empty buildings causing structural or social problems. This process will be the same for any cutbacks suggested - phones, ipads, any electrical goods, motoring, building, farming etc.

    In essence, the Education Department needs to act now to ensure that the students of today are taught the right subjects, because the world will inevitably change and today's structure and subjects will no longer fit in.

    I'm not being negative, I do recycle things myself, I'm just being honest and facing the facts.
  • Posted by GREENIOM September 25, 2019 at 12:39

    Though this is related to Energy Supply, we absolutely MUST NOT allow exploration and exploitation of hydrocarbons off the coast of the Isle of Man. To hire James Curran, and set up a Climate Change Transition team, then continue with supporting this outdated concept is completely hypocritical. A Climate Emergency means just that - it is urgent, and requires changes to be made outside the 'normal' remit. We cannot continue business as usual, and hydrocarbon exploitation is just that.
    If those in power are convinced that fracking is the only way we will be able to afford the changes that need to be made, then the people in power need to change. In an emergency, you don't consider whether you can afford to take action - you just do. And, it has been proven time and time again, though the initial costs of greenifying will be high, they are more cost-effective in the long run. Additionally, by not taking action now, the monetary costs of runaway climate change will be astronomical, and the burden placed on the children of today, rather than those who can make a difference before it is too late.
    These previous points consider only the current method of measuring value - money. We must also consider the social, environmental and health value of projects we take on. By choosing to support fracking, you ignore the alternative ways of measuring value (which I believe the transition team is looking into).
    We are too late to kick the ball down the road - take responsibility, take action, and think not just about the people you represent today, but the people whose future you are fighting for. Please.
  • Posted by memnewb September 30, 2019 at 17:31

    Any plans that are put into place must be achievable, cost effective and pragmatic otherwise they will lose credibility and not be achieved.
    Most people realise that change is required and are now looking for clear transparent leadership that will give the population the confidence that we are doing the right thing, in a way that will not bankrupt the Island and we can all be proud of.
  • Posted by paulweatherall October 02, 2019 at 11:55

    Gov should work with TT promoters and MotorCycle manufacturing teams to use the TT as a showcase for ev bike development, with a view to the TT being predominantly ev by 2030, with a heritage class race for ice bikes
  • Posted by Sooty October 02, 2019 at 13:25

    There should be clean air policy in the Isle of Man like there is in the UK.

    Wood burning stoves maybe ok but some people are on a tight budget and are not always able to afford to buy the correct burning material so will burn damp salvaged wood and in some situations other combustibles etc

    DEFA should also monitor issues 24/7 and not just during office hours, as these wood burners are more likely to be lit in the evenings and at weekends. When DEFA are not available.

    This is not limited to woodburners though, how often do you put washing out or leave windows on the vent and go out and then come home to find a neighbour is burning all sorts of rubbish, and there is thick black smoke being emitted onto your washing, into your property and into the atmosphere. There is nobody you can report it to outside of office hours as a colleague recently found out. The police class it as a civil matter, but if its affecting the climate and amenities there needs to be a duty of care 24/7 enforced by legislation.

  • Posted by Me October 02, 2019 at 21:19

    Help people to make changes, educate people to make better choices. People need to change their behaviour and whilst the government can legislate for some changes, it needs to be a cultural change. Random Acts of Green in Canada is a social enterprise that does this well. Perhaps the government could empower the community to take responsibility for actions, and lead by example.
  • Posted by steveburrows October 03, 2019 at 17:28

    There needs to be a separate and dedicated Government workstream. Whilst some Gov't activities with climatic impact will be caught by other workstreams, Gov't is the biggest industry on the IoM and should be the subject of a dedicated multidisciplinary team.
  • Posted by Codger October 10, 2019 at 10:19

    Introduce a carbon vat tax based on air miles. This would curb consumerism, fairest tax in society as it hits those that spend the most, ability to target the tax to where appropriate, with in built exemptions(medical etc)
  • Posted by GretaMk2 October 12, 2019 at 14:19

    I think government, and everyone else too, needs to revisit the basis for their belief that human activity (specifically fossil fuel usage on the Isle of Man) has any meaningful influence on climate. Start by searching for work done by Tony Heller, who has noted that there is no correlation between CO2 levels and climate.

    He used climate change models that predict temperature rises in response to increased CO2 levels and fed in EXISTING (not forecast) CO2 data e.g. the period 1930s to 1950s.. and because CO2 levels were lower the Climate Emergency model predicted the climate would be cooler. Instead the climate records show the earth was WARMER. Think about that.. lower CO2 between the 1930s and 1950s did not produce a cooler climate, the climate was warmer than in the 1960s. He has a website called realclimatescience dot com, and because I'm reluctant to include urls in case this website immediately censors the entire comment, I'm going to invite people to search using "realclimatescience The Earth Began In 1960" for just one example of his recent analyses.

    Today we have people making the prediction that if CO2 levels rise, that the temperature will rise to the point that there will be some kind of climate emergency, despite records revealing that the predictive model they are relying on cannot explain why the climate was warmer between 1930 and 1950 before cooling through to the 1960s, while the CO2 levels were lower than they are now. Allowing government policy to be shaped by such a flawed model has the potential to waste a great deal of money, and put many families through hardship for no benefit.
  • Posted by Fell October 12, 2019 at 15:41

    Unless you know where you are starting from you cannot know how to get where you are going.

    There is a lot of talk about different dates to achieve a net zero greenhouse gas emission target on the Island. We have also been told that we have a "climate emergency" on the Island .

    What has not been communicated is what the Island's current emission levels are - so how do we know the level of the challenge facing us?

    To focus residents minds and to motivate them this level should be given publicity and used as a baseline against which progress is measured on a regular basis.

    My worry however is that the Government has no idea what the current levels are - so we may be flying blind.
  • Posted by paulweatherall October 12, 2019 at 16:04

    I think Gretamk2 needs to check her "facts"
  • Posted by Griffdog October 13, 2019 at 14:31

    I think the key to a lot of the other areas is the move away from fossil fuel for our electricity supply. Whatever we do we need to make a start very soon and I think an offshore wind farm should be the first point.

    some other steps can be taken very quickly - divest all Government reserves and PSPA money from fossil fuel based industries - invest/ make links with solar / wind companies who we can work with in the future. But do it soon - we don't want to be the last ones to leave or there will be nothing left for us. Immediate Divestment is a must.
  • Posted by Optimist64 October 14, 2019 at 11:49

    Agree with Gretamk2 , the poster has checked the facts and come to a reasonable conclusion. I would like to see the Government research how we can benefit from the changing climate, as it appears to me that there is very little we can do to alter it. Verify the data not model it, for example, according to my sea temperature data, it dropped approximately 5 degrees in 3 days (Oct 1-3) when that storm came through, recovered 1 degree in the next 5 days and now has dropped back to half a degree below the minimum on the 3rd.
  • Posted by DR October 14, 2019 at 14:42

    With wildfires ravaging the Amazon rainforest and other forested areas across the globe, it is important that we try to do something in response. If we were to lose this lung of the world, the estimates are that global temperature will rise by around 3 degrees centigrade and the seas will rise by around 25 feet. Doing nothing is not an option. Saying that, it's completely unfeasible to try to physically stop this destruction. World Governments may be able to bring legislation and impose sanctions but there's no guarantee these efforts will have the desired effect. There is one thing we on the Isle of Man and in other Western countries can do to try to redress the balance, and that is to plant forests here while we are losing them there. The uplands of the island are grazed by sheep. Maybe the time has come to rethink this old agricultural policy and to investigate the prospect of managed broadleaf forests instead to provide clean air, clean water and an income for our children and grandchildren. The time to act is now. With people being encouraged to eat less meat, maybe some farmland could be turned over to future foresting too. I do hope this message doesn't fall on deaf ears. Yours, Dan Richardson.
  • Posted by WooWaaBob October 15, 2019 at 22:08

    All commercial buildings should maximise the available south facing roof space to provision of PV as a requirement of building regs.
  • Posted by WooWaaBob October 15, 2019 at 22:15

    We must NOT allow extraction of fossil fuels in Manx waters. More ambition is needed rather than short term-ism.
  • Posted by Louise October 16, 2019 at 18:06

    Say something and mean it. The IOM Gov declared a climate emergency, now it is time to put its money where its mouth is! I sincerely hope that Prof Curran's recommendations will be embraced and acted on in a speedy manner.
  • Posted by JuBib October 18, 2019 at 11:06

    I very much agree with people who say we shouldn't allow fossil fuel excavation from our waters. I was very disappointed to hear Prof Curran's comment this week which seemed to express a belief that this doesn't count as it will be someone else's emissions so won't impact on our ability to reach net zero. I understand what he is saying but think we should be taking responsibility for what is in our power to effect. I would also like us to question the 2050 deadline. If it is possible for us to reach net zero sooner we should go all out to achieve that.
  • Posted by VDavison October 18, 2019 at 17:44

    Take a global view, just because we don't use the fossil fuels does not mean it doesn't matter. Have integrity! Any fossil fuels sold should be offset locally. There's no point selling drugs to fund a rehab clinic.
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